tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post4258865968527033618..comments2023-11-28T01:29:02.955-08:00Comments on Run Away Fast: The Senior GamesJaymeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01680519617786773673noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-56493908813590018352010-07-15T03:57:41.459-07:002010-07-15T03:57:41.459-07:00Julie, I know... from Jim Glickman's photos on...Julie, I know... from Jim Glickman's photos on Facebook - #526 ;)<br /><br />Jaymee, I agree your best tactic for a fast time is the more evenly paced type of race. It'll always be difficult to win that type of race though, as runners with a good kick can sit with you (unless the pace is out of their league). A gradual wind-up from a long way out might work - in a mile, the last 2 laps, or in a 5000, the last 4 laps.Ewenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01093209634556111656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-2057261695766077262010-07-13T15:49:54.324-07:002010-07-13T15:49:54.324-07:00take a wild guess!take a wild guess!t-meatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-40856175928736144112010-07-13T09:29:56.595-07:002010-07-13T09:29:56.595-07:00Great conversation here, thanks for delving into i...Great conversation here, thanks for delving into it, ladies!Girl In Motionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12845071620369547052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-21969311024566192842010-07-13T09:00:30.267-07:002010-07-13T09:00:30.267-07:00Okay, I must know: who is tmeat?Okay, I must know: who is tmeat?Juliehttp://raceslikeagirl.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-34412243444954997312010-07-11T18:21:07.065-07:002010-07-11T18:21:07.065-07:00by the way, we scorpios can be a little defensive ...by the way, we scorpios can be a little defensive sometimes. ;)tmeatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-46773213350415173992010-07-11T18:20:22.845-07:002010-07-11T18:20:22.845-07:00i appreciate your nice comments, jaymee. no offen...i appreciate your nice comments, jaymee. no offense taken. after we do these races, whether they are big events or small, it is normal to analyze what we did right and what we did wrong so we can apply them for future events (that kinda sounds like a line out of Top Gun). <br /> that's a good question: why do people still fall apart even after running such a slow pace during a tactical race. my guess is this: when they finally do pick it up, it is a blazing pace. so only the great kickers have the ability to hang. i guess that's why the strength runners are better off running the kick out of the speedsters before it gets to that point. the tactical races tend to fall into the hands of the speedsters.tmeatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-15832057871791895162010-07-11T16:14:48.295-07:002010-07-11T16:14:48.295-07:00I hope that anyone who read my blog didn't thi...I hope that anyone who read my blog didn't think I was trying to blame anyone or anything for not achieving my goal yesterday. I take full responsibility. Having said that, the point of my race yesterday was to learn, and I learned a lot. I mentioned some of the things I learned in the race report. What I also learned is that it takes a lot of practice training on the track and racing on the track to know what a given pace feels like on the track. I don't have that experience, and so I need a split timer or clock to help me. Without that experience, it was easy to convince me that I was running much faster than I expected given the split times I heard. The misfortune of not having a clock was that we didn't have access to the real split time, that's all. The bottom line was that I thought we were running 5:00 pace for the first two laps, and I would have been a fool to pick up the pace. I don't think I would have done it any differently, given the data that I had available. <br /><br />I also see tactical races run in national and international competitions where they go out much slower than everyone is capable of running. I am always surprised at how quickly people fall off when the leaders finally pick it up. I wonder why the rest of the runners don't have a ton of extra energy left to be able to rally. I'm not sure what happens physiologically or psychologically, but I felt that yesterday. I think some people are probably capable of running a tactical race like that very well and some people aren't. I'm probably better off running a more evenly-paced race, and so I learned that about myself too.<br /><br />I was thinking today during my long run that it was really fun to be running with the likes of Mary, Midori and Jen P. yesterday. I have held you all in high regard for your talent, commitment and longevity in the sport. A year ago, I would not have pictured myself racing any of you and coming in even close at the finish. To be passed by Mary Coordt, but only lose to her by a second is not something I can say I'll ever be upset about. You are all rock stars.Jaymeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01680519617786773673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-59829917862125282872010-07-11T14:47:38.950-07:002010-07-11T14:47:38.950-07:00after going on my run today, i thought about it an...after going on my run today, i thought about it and had this epiphany: it is a dumb excuse to blame the lack of a clock on a slow race or bad pacing (which i sort of did this morning). read interviews with people like paula radcliffe and kara goucher. do they blow their track races because they can't see every split? have you ever heard a world class person say "oh, i messed up my time because i couldn't see a clock". no, they primarily run for the win and the time usually comes along with it. it just reminds me of the importance of being in touch with your body and race tactics... not being a slave to the clock. unless of course your only goal is to run a certain time. and infact, one huge reason why my pacing was lame yesterday is because i did have other things on my mind besides running sub 5:10. i figured... hell, if i'm forced to lead this thing, i'm going to win it. why would i want to be passed in the final lap and feel like a dork after doing all the work? so i waited and waited before pushing the pace. was it a bad choice? if time was the primary goal, then i blew it. but to win the race, it was the best choice. as for you jaymee, i don't think you should be self critical for not taking the lead. bottom line is... mary coordt passed you. you obviously didn't have a lot of steam left. if you had looked at your garmin and decided to push the pace in the second lap, you likely would have gone over the edge. if you had finished with this crazy huge kick then it would be a different story. also... if you ran 5:17 then that means you averaged about 79... which is the pace of our first 400. it's not like it was crazy slow compared to the rest of your splits as the race progressed. anyway... we're all works in progress still. stay tuned.t-meatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-80770476945594739102010-07-11T08:53:28.761-07:002010-07-11T08:53:28.761-07:00ok ok... so i messed up on the pacing! well, mayb...ok ok... so i messed up on the pacing! well, maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if we had a clock. but there was the competition aspect to think about, too. but you're right... i "should" have been out in 76 or so, considering all my intervals are 75 second pace or faster. bottom line... this was a lesson to be learned. i'm sure we'll both go more balls to the wall next time. i know i have a lot more in me, as do you, so it should be a better race in a few weeks.tmeatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-3138119254142647582010-07-11T07:49:54.943-07:002010-07-11T07:49:54.943-07:00Thanks, JT. The track has been growing on me. If...Thanks, JT. The track has been growing on me. If all of this translates into a faster marathon, then I'm really hooked. It is all about the marathon after all:)<br /><br />Kris, cool that you're doing Hood to Coast. I've never done it, but it's on my list. Can't wait to hear how it goes. And, Boston! Excellent that you're putting miles in the bank now for a pay off in April. You could have hung with me and passed me on that 400, I'm quite sure. 75 second 400 repeats? That's too fast for me:) You DO have a cool job!<br /><br />Thanks, Flo. It really is all about attitude, isn't it? Regardless of how it goes we control the story. It can either be a story about a death march or a story about a girl picking posies in the meadow. I like posies.<br /><br />Ewen, Agreed. I thought I was reading Bizarro world blog comments when I saw that too:) Thanks for the props. And yes, pacing is an art. If I had a little more confidence going into the race, I might have taken us out rather than relying on my competitor to do the work. But, I wasn't all there and felt like tagging along. That means I go with her pacing. I will keep that 76 in my back pocket for the 1500 in a couple of weeks.<br /><br />Water retention is mostly under control. Today is the last day of the cleanse! Yay!Jaymeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01680519617786773673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-39476445642029029412010-07-11T02:28:01.124-07:002010-07-11T02:28:01.124-07:00Julie saying 'track racing is a lot of fun'...Julie saying 'track racing is a lot of fun' - ah, what's going on there! She can't have been having similar dreams to you ;)<br /><br />Congrats on both PBs Jaymee. The 400 was impressive, being soon after the mile - you've got to love electronic timing. That one will come down a lot. Just an observation - I think you'd go better next time with a faster first lap - 76ish.<br /><br />I like the photo of the three of you. It looks like a lovely track with the trees and close stands. Hope you're on top of the water retention thing. The cleanse sounds horrible!Ewenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01093209634556111656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-75998182555060869302010-07-10T17:21:07.860-07:002010-07-10T17:21:07.860-07:00Great job on conquering the mile race again! You ...Great job on conquering the mile race again! You are my all-distance running idol!cindy and christyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03360061218337907656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-33991779518833687232010-07-10T16:04:43.237-07:002010-07-10T16:04:43.237-07:00+1 to Julie, so cool how you jumped into the secon...+1 to Julie, so cool how you jumped into the second race so casually and positively. Congratulations!Girl In Motionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12845071620369547052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-41448212875513890282010-07-10T15:16:11.617-07:002010-07-10T15:16:11.617-07:00You're insane Jaymee! Certifiably. You make ...You're insane Jaymee! Certifiably. You make it all sound so easy, but I know it isn't. Especially at our age. I'm deep into my Hood to Coast training and setting up my base for Boston, pounding through 40 miles a week. Can't imagine 70-100. I do my 400m repeats at 75 sec, and I'm not sure I could have hung with you through a 67. It does feel good to go fast, though, doesn't it? BTW, check out my Australia photos I posted on FB.KKraigernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2668199593986982895.post-41432438443481787782010-07-10T14:53:26.317-07:002010-07-10T14:53:26.317-07:00Nice races! I love that you rearranged your attitu...Nice races! I love that you rearranged your attitude and the payoff was a win. Track racing is a lot of fun, isn't it? I hope you'll do more of it after having had what sounds like a good experience.Juliehttp://raceslikeagirl.comnoreply@blogger.com